X-From-Line: nobody Mon Jan 26 11:08:49 1998 Newsgroups: soc.subculture.bondage-bdsm Subject: Re: Culture: The Difference between Hedonism and WIITWD References: <34c8ab68.1253472@news.mindspring.com> From: Paul Crowley Date: 26 Jan 1998 11:08:49 +0000 Message-ID: <87zpkjxzjy.fsf@hedonism.demon.co.uk> X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.2.25/XEmacs 19.14 Lines: 21 Xref: hedonism.demon.co.uk misc-news:323 X-Gnus-Article-Number: 323 Mon Jan 26 11:08:49 1998 gpharr@mindspring.com (Eugene H. Pharr, Jr.) writes: > Seek to be what it is that you are. Avoid being a Hedonist. Can't do both, sorry. I identify as a hedonist (check the sitename) because I cherish and value pleasure as a worthy goal in itself, in a society which expresses its pleasure-negative bias not only in banning and condemning various forms of harmless pleasure but also in denigrating pleasure itself, as if doing a thing "just for fun" or just because it turns you on is a second-rate reason in itself. I think the desire to draw a distinction btween "real" BDSMmers and "mere" pleasure-seekers is a reflection of that pleasure-negative pressure, in the same way that when respectable, middle-class gay men in monogamous couples are rude about drag queens and backroom sex (for "letting the side down" and "giving us a bad name") it is a reflection of homophobia. Besides which, hell, being fed peeled grapes is fun. __ \/ o\ paul@hedonism.demon.co.uk \ / /\__/ Paul Crowley -+- DATA IS SACRED /~\